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and you asked john brennan that today. he responded that any american who is a member of al qaeda should know that we are with al qaeda and anybody who's in al qaeda can surrender at any time and thereby eliminate their risk of being killed by the united states. were you satisfied with that answer? >> i wasn't. and here's what's at stake. there are certainly instances where an american takes up arms against the united states, where i think it's important in order to protect the country to use lethal force. but i can tell you the government makes mistakes and sometimes the intelligence is flawed and sometimes they get the wrong person. and the reason i asked that question is i think those kinds of issues ought to be part of this debate and ought to be part of a system of checks and balances. >> oregon democratic senator ron wyden, i know it's been a very, very long and tax day four. thank you for your time tonight, sir. >> thank you for having me. >> thanks. >>> it took longer than scheduled for this riveting hearing on cap
and you asked john brennan that today. he responded that any american who is a member of al qaeda should know that we are with al qaeda and anybody who's in al qaeda can surrender at any time and thereby eliminate their risk of being killed by the united states. were you satisfied with that answer? >> i wasn't. and here's what's at stake. there are certainly instances where an american takes up arms against the united states, where i think it's important in order to protect the country to...
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brennan? >> not completely obviously saying sometimes it produces information and sometimes it isn't -- >> not enough to derail this nomination. >> i don't think so. i think brennan probably compared with hagel is going to be a breeze to get through, but these are issues and this is what this testimony actually illustrates, that really tug at the heartstrings of americans. we have had a traumatic decade. we have come away questioning tactics of torture, the use of guantanamo bay. the legal justification not fully understood. the drone issue still not fully explained because it's so secret. there's still a lot the american public is struggling to understand. >> dan, one reaction that i have relative to the whole standard of when we could take out even an american is, you know, be careful before you make your decision based on the occupant of the white house because precedent is being set here, and whatever the drill might be for today could apply to president clinton in 2016. it could apply to
brennan? >> not completely obviously saying sometimes it produces information and sometimes it isn't -- >> not enough to derail this nomination. >> i don't think so. i think brennan probably compared with hagel is going to be a breeze to get through, but these are issues and this is what this testimony actually illustrates, that really tug at the heartstrings of americans. we have had a traumatic decade. we have come away questioning tactics of torture, the use of guantanamo...
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. >> john brennan, the cia, and drone strikes. >> i never believed it is better to kill a terrorist than to detain him. >> marco rubio, savior of the republican party, and immigration debate. >> this is about getting it right for the american people and those suffering under an immigration system that does not work well for anybody. >> after the lights go out at the super bowl, thoughts about the nation's crumbling infrastructure. captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- seesutawney phil did not his shadow this year, which means spring will come early. tell that to the folks in boston buried in snow. in washington, every day is groundhog day. the subject once again is the federal budget, but for debt, and the word that strikes fear in the hearts of contractors in the sea and the suburbs, sequestration. >> it gives new meaning to the term "march madness," because that is what would result if we have to face a sequester. >> that is why i fought not to have to sequester in the first place. the president did not want to have to deal with the debt limit again before h
. >> john brennan, the cia, and drone strikes. >> i never believed it is better to kill a terrorist than to detain him. >> marco rubio, savior of the republican party, and immigration debate. >> this is about getting it right for the american people and those suffering under an immigration system that does not work well for anybody. >> after the lights go out at the super bowl, thoughts about the nation's crumbling infrastructure. captioned by the national...
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i think brennan is generally safe. he did perform satisfactory according to a lot of these -- the key democrats an some of the republicans on the panel and will get confirmed. i think that will happen in the next couple of weeks but look for the issue of the drone strikes and whether or not there needs to be more oversight to become a hot issue in the next weeks. >> senator bob menendez, he says this is nonsense, a set-up, if you will. smoke and mirrors by conservative bloggers and such and supporters feel the same way. we heard his first comments an we played on this investigation. >> he's trying to make this all about a smear campaign from a small group of people. but the real problem for bob menendez is there have been reports that have surfaced showing he's taken action it appears on behalf of this mega donor who he's been involved with, and flown him to the dominican and had to repay him for some of the flights on the private jet. failed to disclose those initial i len facing an ethics inquiry here in the senate a
i think brennan is generally safe. he did perform satisfactory according to a lot of these -- the key democrats an some of the republicans on the panel and will get confirmed. i think that will happen in the next couple of weeks but look for the issue of the drone strikes and whether or not there needs to be more oversight to become a hot issue in the next weeks. >> senator bob menendez, he says this is nonsense, a set-up, if you will. smoke and mirrors by conservative bloggers and such...
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is a bit of trnz pirn si behind this or soothing the way for john brennan? the aclu and pulitzer prize winning journalist dave wood joins us to discuss skresy and national security. also, party savior or party linguist? marco rubio is ready for his close-up. we will talk to time magazine, the huffington post -- and the nation's katrina vanden hugle. house republicans may, surprise, stand in the way of passage. will eric cantor save the day? that is not a rhetorical question. >>> the president is rallying house democrats at a retreat in virginia. we'll bring you his remarks live when "now" starts in a mere 180 seconds. ♪ i'd like to thank eating right, whole grain, multigrain cheerios! mom, are those my jeans? [ female announcer ] people who choose more whole grain tend to weigh less than those who don't. multigrain cheerios big time taste should fit in a little time cup. new single serve cafe collections from maxwell house now available for use in the keurig k-cup brewer. always good to the last drop.
is a bit of trnz pirn si behind this or soothing the way for john brennan? the aclu and pulitzer prize winning journalist dave wood joins us to discuss skresy and national security. also, party savior or party linguist? marco rubio is ready for his close-up. we will talk to time magazine, the huffington post -- and the nation's katrina vanden hugle. house republicans may, surprise, stand in the way of passage. will eric cantor save the day? that is not a rhetorical question. >>> the...
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questioning brennan. thank you for your time. >> thank you. >> your colleague lindsey graham said in part to his comments to our own casey hunt we should be totally supportive of the president's actions. i also want to play what john bolton said regarding the obama counterterrorism effort. let me play it and get your reaction to both of those. >> the approach that the obama administration is following is consistent with and really derived from the bush administration approach to the war on terror and i think it's entirely sensible. >> do you agree with that? lindsey graham saying totally sensible. >> we are fighting a war that's much different than the classic and traditional wars that we have fought in the past. the result of that is the methods of fighting that war and the way that americans are involved in the war are different than what they have in the past. and so, we're really in a process today of a much maturing way of handling these, of looking at them. i think there's going to be a robust discu
questioning brennan. thank you for your time. >> thank you. >> your colleague lindsey graham said in part to his comments to our own casey hunt we should be totally supportive of the president's actions. i also want to play what john bolton said regarding the obama counterterrorism effort. let me play it and get your reaction to both of those. >> the approach that the obama administration is following is consistent with and really derived from the bush administration approach...
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john brennan was once the deputy cia director. he is now president obama's counterterrorism director at the white house. but if he is to run the cia for president obama, john brennan is first going to have to face questions on thursday about some of what michael isikoff turned up here on this program last night. a justice department white paper elaborating the administration's reasoning for why it thinks it is legal to kill american citizens on the president's say so. or actually, on the say so of an informed high level official of the u.s. government. so maybe that's the president, but maybe that's somebody else. michael isikoff's scoop ended up at "the new york times" today and "the washington post" and "the hill" and slate and salon and ap to name a few. it was everywhere. and then at a press conference today, the attorney general was asked about it. >> last night nbc reported a white paper that was prepared by the justice department undated, unsigned about the legal -- the legal pinnacles for targeting americans overseas. coul
john brennan was once the deputy cia director. he is now president obama's counterterrorism director at the white house. but if he is to run the cia for president obama, john brennan is first going to have to face questions on thursday about some of what michael isikoff turned up here on this program last night. a justice department white paper elaborating the administration's reasoning for why it thinks it is legal to kill american citizens on the president's say so. or actually, on the say so...
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>> the president believes that john brennan is uniquely qualified as a 25-year veteran of intelligence work. >> last night the president reportedly spoke with senator widen agreeing to allow access to the classified legal advice. we'll ask the senator directly about his concerns coming up on "morning joe." >>> also confirmation vote on chuck hagel's nomination to be the next secretary of defense has been abruptly postponed. the senate arms services committee says it needs more information about hagel's paid speeches and business dealings. a number of republicans have raised concerns about whether the former senator has accepted payments for consulting work from "foreign sources." hagel insists he's already disclosed all the required information and despite the delay his supporters say they're still confident that he will be confirmed. >>> the man hagel has been tapped to replace is offering a new warning about the threats facing this country in what could be one of the final speeches as defense secretary. leon panetta telling an audience at georgetown university that the u.s. is at ris
>> the president believes that john brennan is uniquely qualified as a 25-year veteran of intelligence work. >> last night the president reportedly spoke with senator widen agreeing to allow access to the classified legal advice. we'll ask the senator directly about his concerns coming up on "morning joe." >>> also confirmation vote on chuck hagel's nomination to be the next secretary of defense has been abruptly postponed. the senate arms services committee says...
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john brennan will be asked questions about interrogation strikes. the white house is expected to stay ahead of that controversy. last night the administration acknowledged it would give congressional committee members access to classified documents that outline their stance on drone attacks against sus spigoted terrorists who are also american. the reports will be in the hands of those lawmakers just hours before john brennan's confirmation hearing begins, and he will be the one today who's answering questions about the legality of killing americans who are believed to be senior al qaeda leaders such as the american-bern cleric anwar al awlaki who was killed in a 2010 drone strike. critics say the drone strikes violate the law. >> we have something that even president bush didn't do which is to order the killing of a united states citizen without clear evidence of an immediate attack. >> on wednesday the white house defended the program. >> the methods that we use are designed specifically to avoid civilian casualties. i think it's fair to say that
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expect these questions to come up at brennan's confirmation hearing. whether we get to see it in the public. congress has been surprise league silent on this. very few members have demanded more transparency or oversight. even leon panetta said that's going to have to change. >> the transparency on this is very limited and does that mean a change and more oversight for congress to step in? >> i think the way to do it is in title ten operations, so-called title ten operations, military operations, i think a lot more of this can be put under title ten and that on title 50 we always ought to have that capability to use a covert effort if we have to. >> but very limited. >> i would limit that. >> ahead of brennan's hearings, eight democratic and three republican senators have written to president obama asking for the actual legal opinions themselves authorizing the killing of americans from that letter. "so that congress and the public can decide whether this authority has been properly defined and whether the president's pow twoer deliberately kill americ
expect these questions to come up at brennan's confirmation hearing. whether we get to see it in the public. congress has been surprise league silent on this. very few members have demanded more transparency or oversight. even leon panetta said that's going to have to change. >> the transparency on this is very limited and does that mean a change and more oversight for congress to step in? >> i think the way to do it is in title ten operations, so-called title ten operations,...
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he was threatening to delay brennan's confirmation process and says he wants to know more about brennan's role in the drone program. despite the pushback john brennan is expected to be confirmed as head of the cia. in 2009 he took his name out of consideration for the post after questions were raised about his views on enhanced interrogation techniques. this time brennan has already told lawmakers that while at the agency he raised objections about the policies privately. meanwhile secretary of defense leon panetta testifies on capitol hill today about the deadly attack on the u.s. compound in benghazi, libya. this follows his dire warnings yesterday about the impact of dramatic budget cuts due to kick in next moth the so-called sequestration. panetta spelled out a list of cuts the pentagon will have to make, cuts he says will seriously undermine the military. susan mcginnis is in washington this morning. susan, good morning. >> good morning, anne-marie. the cuts are already happening. the pentagon is shrinking its presence in the persian gulf of aircraft carriers. it's par of that long l
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we've got hillary clinton, chuck hagel, leon panetta and now john brennan. are they getting what they want out of this, which is basically to try to put some mud on the president's record? >> absolutely. i think that's been the clear goal. >> i think actually not. if you look particularly at the hearings of chuck hagel and hillary clinton, you see a lot of basically republican free lansing going on. i was surprised at how the lack of collective, thoughtful questioning -- you would have thought that they would have gotten in behind closed doors beforehand and said, what's our line of questioning going to be, what is second kwengs and thoughtful? in fact, that wasn't the case which is why hillary clinton most vividly gave as good as she got and came out on the winning side. i think hagel, given his inconsistencies came away unscarred. i think it's also interesting, most folks may not know this, the suggestion made yesterday by dianne feinstein of having another court look at this stuff, well, she made that suggestion that at the very moment a particular federa
we've got hillary clinton, chuck hagel, leon panetta and now john brennan. are they getting what they want out of this, which is basically to try to put some mud on the president's record? >> absolutely. i think that's been the clear goal. >> i think actually not. if you look particularly at the hearings of chuck hagel and hillary clinton, you see a lot of basically republican free lansing going on. i was surprised at how the lack of collective, thoughtful questioning -- you would...
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it's john brennan's turn on capitol hill. what will the nominee say? the policies for killing al qaeda operatives who are american citizens and the overall use of drone strikes in other countries. by the way, when is the senate going to vote on chuck hagel's nomination. delay is rarely a good thing. biden rallies house democrats and we will talk to one member who is part of that bunch leading the charge. 48 hours after joking about his weight with letterman, chris christie gets serious and tough when asked about what a former white house doctor had to say about him. there is something going on that has a lot to do with 2016. it's thursday, february seventh, 2013. it's t"the daily rundown." let's get to the first reads of the morning. you may be breaking off to hear from president obama at the prayer breakfast. let's start with the first read. after years of secrecy, president obama ordered the justice department to release a classified memo detailing the legal justification for killing americans considered terrorists to two congressional committees. th
it's john brennan's turn on capitol hill. what will the nominee say? the policies for killing al qaeda operatives who are american citizens and the overall use of drone strikes in other countries. by the way, when is the senate going to vote on chuck hagel's nomination. delay is rarely a good thing. biden rallies house democrats and we will talk to one member who is part of that bunch leading the charge. 48 hours after joking about his weight with letterman, chris christie gets serious and...
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brennan, so you can be advised. >> you've been listening to john brennan, c.i.a. correct -- director nominee under president bush. we heard dramatic, heated, tense testimony. the most dramatic was when senator marco rubio asked why we would let tunisians release the only -- there's a full wrapup on special report at 6:00 p.m. i've going to the five but this is dramatic testimony we'll wrap up. in the meantime, don't change the challenge. i'll remike and go do the five. see you tomorrow. hi. hi. i'm here to pick up some cacti. it should be under stephens. the verizon share everything plan for small business. get a shareable pool of data... got enough joshua trees? ... on up to 25 devices. so you can spend less time... yea, the golden barrels... managing wireless costs and technology and more time driving your business potential. looks like we're going to need to order more agaves... ah! oh! ow! ... and more bandages. that's powerful. sharble data plus unlimited talk and text. now save $50 on a droid razr maxx hd by motorola.
brennan, so you can be advised. >> you've been listening to john brennan, c.i.a. correct -- director nominee under president bush. we heard dramatic, heated, tense testimony. the most dramatic was when senator marco rubio asked why we would let tunisians release the only -- there's a full wrapup on special report at 6:00 p.m. i've going to the five but this is dramatic testimony we'll wrap up. in the meantime, don't change the challenge. i'll remike and go do the five. see you tomorrow....
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john brennan was nominated to head the cia and that is still to come next week. >> the hearing on gun control. to that issue. -- y kippers was there a fiery exchange. what do you think that did as moving the ball forward. >> the president seems to be his politicalte capital in the hot button issue on capitol hill. the super bowl, saw against the illegal guns. during the super bowl. a lot of people are anxious to what happens -- what comes of this. they are very cautious and any legislation not the second amendment rights. >> we appreciate you being here on superbowl sunday. >> thank you. the tea s.a. is reevaluating its said itafter reports might be useless. there is no real way of knowing it work. say in a terminal, dogs have too much sensory input and detect aniably explosive. most of the time, they are hitting stationary object. what these canines do is essentially walk through a a cent andd detect then they start following the scent. this is relatively new in the united states. >> the government accountability found some dogs are not required monthly training. >> investigators are
john brennan was nominated to head the cia and that is still to come next week. >> the hearing on gun control. to that issue. -- y kippers was there a fiery exchange. what do you think that did as moving the ball forward. >> the president seems to be his politicalte capital in the hot button issue on capitol hill. the super bowl, saw against the illegal guns. during the super bowl. a lot of people are anxious to what happens -- what comes of this. they are very cautious and any...
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brennan? >> reporter: well, talking to folks, the democrats here in d.c., there is a lot of confidence in brennan's performance because it's the complete opposite of hagel. they felt brennan looked self-assured. he gave a spirited defense to the administration's policies and most importantly he was also humble. he said there should be more information put forward in terms of when these drone strikes occur if civilians are injured. this hearing for mr. brennan also sort of placated a lot of democrats on that committee because the white house released papers from the department of justice explaining the legal rationale behind the drone strikes. so overall, the feel something that john brennan performed admirably, that he will move forward and he will be a good director of the cia. they felt that the committee hearing went as well as it could be. what's interesting, martin, john brennan has 25 years experience at the cia and that's really what we've heard. he's the most experienced person to take
brennan? >> reporter: well, talking to folks, the democrats here in d.c., there is a lot of confidence in brennan's performance because it's the complete opposite of hagel. they felt brennan looked self-assured. he gave a spirited defense to the administration's policies and most importantly he was also humble. he said there should be more information put forward in terms of when these drone strikes occur if civilians are injured. this hearing for mr. brennan also sort of placated a lot...
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brennan is the administration's point person on drones, the man who signs off on the kill list. >> i suggest to you that these targeted strikes against al qaeda terrorists are, indeed, ethical and just. >> reporter: the use of drones has grown 700% under the obama administration. we learned just yesterday, that america has a secret base in saudi arabia, used to send drones throughout the region. lawmakers will discover about a document that says american citizens tied to al qaeda can be killed if a high-level official believes the target poses an imminent threat. but the government can do so without having clear evidence. human rights advocates disagree. >> that justifies, essentially, a claim that the executive branch can be judge, jury and executioner. >> reporter: drone strikes have become controversial. in pakistan alone, there have been more than 300 drone strikes in the last decade, killing thousands of terrorists. but also more than 300 civilians. the retired general who once ran the military's drone strike program, thinks there should be discussion about their use. >> if the
brennan is the administration's point person on drones, the man who signs off on the kill list. >> i suggest to you that these targeted strikes against al qaeda terrorists are, indeed, ethical and just. >> reporter: the use of drones has grown 700% under the obama administration. we learned just yesterday, that america has a secret base in saudi arabia, used to send drones throughout the region. lawmakers will discover about a document that says american citizens tied to al qaeda...
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. >> jennifer: and that is just a prelude to tomorrow's confirmation hearings for john brennan who is a chief architect for the drone program. senator wyden has been one of john brennan's loudest opponents because of his role in that drone program. and here is another thing that is not going to help the president with the left, is he is now getting praise from the far right. lindsay graham said he was going to author a resolution commending the president's use of drones . . . maybe not the endorsement the president was looking for. so is his liberal appeal strong enough to withstand the outcry over the drones or is it just a narrow group of people? how should progressives feel about drone strikes anyway? it's not so easy. for more on that i'm joined by hendrik hertzberg, staff writer at "the new yorker," and his most recent column is about the president's second inaugural address, but he has addressed this drone issue as well. he is coming to us from new york. rick thanks so much for joining me inside "the war room." >> thank you. >> jennifer: let me start with the bigger issue, which
. >> jennifer: and that is just a prelude to tomorrow's confirmation hearings for john brennan who is a chief architect for the drone program. senator wyden has been one of john brennan's loudest opponents because of his role in that drone program. and here is another thing that is not going to help the president with the left, is he is now getting praise from the far right. lindsay graham said he was going to author a resolution commending the president's use of drones . . . maybe not...
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we may see on thursday how many of those questions john brennan will answer. but tonight, four days ahead of that hearing, nbc news, michael isikoff has obtained a document that is closer than we have ever gotten that supposedly justifies this, the memo that may show the justification for the american government killing american citizens. tonight we have exclusive reporting. joining us is national investigative correspondent michael isikoff. michael, thank you for being here. >> good to be with you, rachel. >> everybody has been looking for this memo. you have not the memo, but a white paper based on the memo. does it tell us anything that we did not know before about how the government justifies targeted killings of americans? >> yes. in short, it does. it provides detail. it fleshes out some of the arguments that have been made publicly, and in ways that in some instances contrast with what has been said publicly. now, to be fair, attorney general holder gave a speech last march where he laid out the administration case for targeted killing of americans. he
we may see on thursday how many of those questions john brennan will answer. but tonight, four days ahead of that hearing, nbc news, michael isikoff has obtained a document that is closer than we have ever gotten that supposedly justifies this, the memo that may show the justification for the american government killing american citizens. tonight we have exclusive reporting. joining us is national investigative correspondent michael isikoff. michael, thank you for being here. >> good to...
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brennan, is long gone. >> john brennan would not commit to additional disclosures, but he defended the legality of the program. >> the president has insisted that any actions we take will be legally grounded, will be thoroughly anchored in intelligence, will have the appropriate review process, approval process before any action is contemplated, including those actions that might involve the use of lethal force. >> to be fair, it sounds like the bush administration all over. democrats and republicans voiced their concerns, but it was independent senator from maine angus king who questioned the executive power of the president. >> having the executive being the prosecutor, the judge, the jury, and the executioner all in one is very contrary to the traditions and the laws of this country. >> unilateral execution power of the president is causing concern among progressives in america. no doubt about it. democratic senator ron wyden asked brennan, how can the united states target americans who have been denied due process? brennan's answer was consistent with the administration. >> any ame
brennan, is long gone. >> john brennan would not commit to additional disclosures, but he defended the legality of the program. >> the president has insisted that any actions we take will be legally grounded, will be thoroughly anchored in intelligence, will have the appropriate review process, approval process before any action is contemplated, including those actions that might involve the use of lethal force. >> to be fair, it sounds like the bush administration all over....
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john brennan strongly defended the program of which he's been called the chief architect. >> i think there is a misimpression on the part of some american people who believe that we take strikes to punish terrorists for past transgressions. nothing could be further from the truth. we only take such actions as a last resort to save lives when there's no other alternative to taking an action that's going to mitigate that threat. so we need to make sure there's an understanding, and the people that were standing up here today, i think they really have a misunderstanding of what we do as a government and the care that we take and the agony that we go through to make sure that we do not have any collateral injuries or deaths. >> well, brennan's testimony had been interrupted there you see by code pink five times, by anti-war protesters called code pink. they're upset about the drones. polls show for the most part those protesters out there, and they're legitimate, represent a small minority of the country. most americans back using drones to carry out targeted assassinations. and while se
john brennan strongly defended the program of which he's been called the chief architect. >> i think there is a misimpression on the part of some american people who believe that we take strikes to punish terrorists for past transgressions. nothing could be further from the truth. we only take such actions as a last resort to save lives when there's no other alternative to taking an action that's going to mitigate that threat. so we need to make sure there's an understanding, and the...